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Entered on: June 6, 2003 11:06 AM by Ross
Okay, I have noticed a distinct drop-off in the discussions of diet/exercise. I know that at least in my case, this is simply due to a drop-off of diet and exercise. But I'm back on track now, actually I've been eating well but workouts were taking a hit. I basically wanted to mention that I ran on the treadmill last night and ran at 6.5mph for 30 minutes. Finally it appears that my chickens can tolerate the punishment. However, my legs are sore today. But I have renewed vigor and now that Bone's visit is pushed back to the end of July, I am confident that I will be able to handle a Reed's Lake run by then. Roche, you should train up too. I know that you've been having trouble in this arena as well. You cannot allow yourself to be derailed! Bad-ass cardio workouts are now my metric for health.

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From: The Bone Entered on: June 6, 2003 7:28 PM
My program has been taking a beating for the last 2 weeks. I've been sick and I haven't had the energy to give a shit. I haven't done any workout except the day I went spearfishing and I have been eating some questionable items. I just went to the grocery store and bought a bunch of high quality fruits, vegetables, and meat so hopefully this will provide me the impetus to get back on the health wagon. Especially since I have to have a sweet build to counter my supposed balding hairdo.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 7, 2003 10:23 AM
Well, we all know that Fatty is only going to become Fatty Le Peu in France and Senor Lardo in Spain, so I'm not even going to pretend that it's worth encouraging the originator of the Zone to stay on it. But Roche's health has been teetering in the balance lately so I want him to stick to it.  
 
I was doing well until I went out drinking last night, then ate almost a whole pizza when I got home. Not feeling the best right now. But I am committed to becoming a decent runner. There was a girl on the treadmill next to me last time who, while not running as fast as me (she was at 5.5mph), she looked like she probably could have. I don't need any chicks showing me up.
 
From: John Entered on: June 7, 2003 1:09 PM
Just in case your balding Bone your right you will need a sweet build. So you better get back on the health wagon.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 10, 2003 11:01 AM
Bone: When you did that 0%/4% incline treadmill workout, did you program your treadmill somehow or do it manually? I would like to try it (minus about 1mph from what you did) but I don't want to have to fiddle with buttons and shit.
 
From: John Entered on: June 10, 2003 11:36 AM
I don't know about your treadmill, but on the ones in my gym you can pick a mode where it will adjust the inclin and speed troughout the workout. I used it once but I actually prefer controlling it myself. I like to be in control.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 10, 2003 11:40 AM
You are a control freak, yes. :)  
 
But I'm talking specifically about the particular workout he mentioned. I know there are several pre-programmed modes, but I'm just wondering if that one was one of them. Still, I'm new enough at this that I am not bored simply by trying to run for a half hour.
 
From: John Entered on: June 10, 2003 11:44 AM
I'm not sure if they have the specific workout as I have not used these modes enough to know. The Bone should know since he is an expert in the running department.
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 10, 2003 1:15 PM
The treadmill I currently use has no automatic function which kind of sucks when you are doing fast paced intervals. I have used treadmills with pre-programmed routes which were ok because you just react and it is a little more convenient, however you don't have the control of the specific style. Also, there are programmable treadmills, however they are pretty rare. If yours is programmable with regards to incline and speed, it would have a custom function.  
 
I just started going back to the gym after a 2 weeks hiatus. I didn't do much. A little back workout and I walked on the treadmill for 20 mins. Mainly to flush the lactic acid build-up in my chickens after a heinous hike over the weekend. Hopefully I'll gain momentum in the workout style.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 11, 2003 2:21 PM
Well, I simply did another 30min/6.5mph run last night. It was harsh as hell, I barely finished. What was harshest though, is watching this girl a couple rows in front of me easily handle running at the same speed for far longer. I looked around the room (a big, big room full of treadmills) and she was the only one going as fast or long as I was, but she was already running at 6.4mph when I arrived, and as I was finishing, she upped it to 6.5mph. She finished as I was leaving the gym, which was probably at least 15 minutes later. So she was running at that speed for at least 45 minutes, and probably longer. I was feeling stanky.
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 11, 2003 2:43 PM
Man, I see dudes running between 7 and 8 mph for 30 min to an hour at my gym. It's full of Marines though. There's even a lady in her 40's with fat thighs and no sweet physical style that runs at 6.5 for a straight hour solid. I think the biggest part of it is mental conditioning. Physically I can do it but mentally it sucks so bad I can't stand it. If I could just turn my brain off I'd be fine.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 11, 2003 2:54 PM
My problem is purely physical at this point. I have my MP3 player with enough music for a marathon, and I zone out just fine. But after a half hour, my legs are withering and even my lungs are not feeling the best. Still, I've only been running for a couple weeks and I think I'm improving reasonably fast.  
 
Yeah, I was suprised to not see more people kicking ass on the treadmills yesterday. Normally I do see people much sweeter. I think it had something to do with the fact that it was fairly nice out and Lake Shore Drive is only a mile or so from the gym, which provides for a far more interesting time and even better scenery.
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 11, 2003 4:45 PM
I'm in pretty bad shape right now. After a 2 week layoff I've dramatically degraded. I'm taking it slow right now and hopefully build momentum for the Reeds Lake run. Afterwards we can go out to dinner and eat like assholes.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 11, 2003 5:23 PM
I guess Roche will join us only for the eating like assholes portion of the show...
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 11, 2003 6:24 PM
Come on Roche. You have plenty of time to prepare yourself. It's not like we're going to race around. It'll be leisurely. Step up and be a man. Most people like to live in their comfort zone and never really experience the challenges of life. This type of shit builds character. Come on and give yourself a good accounting.
 
From: John Entered on: June 17, 2003 4:54 PM
Injury builds character? In my younger years I did it many times but alas age and weight seem to be foiling any near future attempts. At this point my body does not react well to the stress of long distance running. I do agree however that I need to start workingout again as I have not since before Fatty left for France.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 17, 2003 5:50 PM
I was just on the treadmill moments ago. I'm still basically doing 30 mins at 6.5mph, but I have been stepping it up to 7mph for 5-8 minutes at times. It's way rougher than that elliptical machine, though, man...
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 17, 2003 5:59 PM
Injury? What injury? You have time to prepare. Eat in the fuckin Zone, start out moderate. Start walking, then jogging. There are old ass grandma's out there running. Holy fucking shit you big pusillanimous crybaby.  
 
If you persist on this course, you will be lumped into the same category as Fatty.  
Be like Bert, he's my role model.
 
From: John Entered on: June 17, 2003 9:33 PM
Let us not forget that this crybaby can still whup your ass! You"ll need to be able to run if you want to talk this much shit.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 17, 2003 9:43 PM
I don't know if I detect sarcasm there, Bone, as I'm sure you can whup the shit out of me on the treadmill. I'm just trying my best is all.  
 
I would like to side with Roche on the injury thing but when you're talking hip injuries, I can't help but think "Granny's in the house!" Sorry Roche. I still want your non-running ass to help me haul shit when I move. :)
 
From: John Entered on: June 17, 2003 9:50 PM
I can still haul shit but repetitive pounding on the cement aggravates my hip area every time I run. It sucks but this prevents me from any sustained running. My body simply objects to this form of exercise.
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 17, 2003 10:16 PM
bert, I'm super impressed with your progress on the treadmill. 30 min at 6.5mph is sweet because I know how shitty running is. Plus the excursion to 7 mph is also really sweet. What it shows is you have decided to press through a shitty and uncomfortable endevour in order to accomplish a goal. Wheather that goal is a sweet build, good health or simply the challenge of getting better at something you aren't particularly good at. I admire that and it shows great character.  
 
Of course I was prodding Roche a little because he needs some sort of stimulus to get him going. If you are truly beleaguered by hip problems then ok, you and Fatty can rub each other down with Ben Gay before your nightly Bingo games (Just Kidding) Seriously, stretch a little, walk at a moderate pace for a half hour, then stretch again. I'm talking about a good all around stretch of everything. In fact flexibility is one of the pillars of physical fitness. Every workout is capped of by about 10 mins of stretching. Anyway, after a while your body will adjust to the new style and soon youu'll be able to run. Maybe 5 mph at first but after a while you can build up. I'm by no stretch of the imagination as sweet runner. I'm particulary weak at it. I just do it precisely because it is difficult and someing I consider a challenge to overcome.  
Oh, and get a good pair of running shoes specifically designed for running otherwise you get fucked up. Cross trainers are pure bullshit.
 
From: John Entered on: June 17, 2003 10:37 PM
I do have cross trainers that are perhaps bullshit. It's true that I don't stretch. Flexibility is something I need to pay attention to and have not. Over the years I can now see how detrimental not stretching has been. My limited flexibility has most certainly caused the hip injury that now plagues me. Your advice seems sound to me and more resonable than trying to prod me by pissing me off. Thanks for the real advice Bone.
 
From: The Bone Entered on: June 17, 2003 11:07 PM
Cross trainers, Jesus man, no wonder. Fatty Albert probably runs in em too. Running is extraodinarily jarring and you absolutely need good running shoes no question about it. If my little comments pissed you off, I was just funnin, I didn't realize you were so sensitive.
 
From: John Entered on: June 17, 2003 11:15 PM
I prefer to call it reactionary not sensitive. Some people just get pissed easy, thats me. I am working on it though but it is difficult to change basic things about your personality.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 18, 2003 6:47 AM
What cracks me up is that you'd rather be regarded as an unstable person than someone who is sensitive.
 
From: Ross Entered on: June 18, 2003 7:13 AM
I too have cross trainers and am aware of the ramifications. I have been wanting a pair of real running shoes for a while now but at this point I don't have a dollar to spare. It sucks...
 

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