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Doc Ock!!!
Entered on: July 20, 2003 7:20 PM by Ross
Check it out, the first pic of Dock Ock from Spider-Man 2:

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From: Ross Entered on: July 21, 2003 7:38 AM
More fucking sweet ass pictures of something entirely different. Let me know what you guys think:
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 21, 2003 3:41 PM
Doc Ock (Dock, Ross?) looks pretty cool! I'm excited for the next Spidey -- Hopefully its got lots of sweet spider-kicking-ass-and-swinging-around-sweetly parts... like the MTV cartoon!

Those Batman pics look pretty cool, but what a tease! It's for some unofficial short film? Hopefully the REAL one gets started soon and looks as good or better. I hope they do away with the molded rubber bat suit and get something sweet looking that a REAL Batman would actually wear. As much as I loved the first 1989 Batman movie, could Batman even turn his head in that thing? He had to twist his whole body to look for traffic before crossing the street. Cool looking, but not practical. I want a giant black bat on the chest (sans the yellow circle) too!

From: Ross Entered on: July 21, 2003 3:54 PM
Did you SEE the pictures of Batman? That's EXACTLY what he was wearing! That's why it was so sweet! Yeah, it's just a short and I doubt if the makers are industry professionals and thus have a very slim chance of getting to make a big-budget version. I just want to see the short. All the stuff I've read about it says it's the best Batman movie (at 8 minutes total) ever made.
From: Swerb Entered on: July 21, 2003 5:37 PM
Doc Ock looks pretty sweet, as does that Batman pic... very Year One. And yeah, that rubber Batman suit was awful. As soon as they highlighted the Bat Ass in the third Batman movie is when I checked out of that franchise completely. Didn't even see Batman and Robin, because it looked like the most annoying thing since Ain't It Cool News.  
Which brings me to my rant about why Ain't It Cool News sucks ballsack. I hate all that fanboy bullshit hype about how the next Spider-Man movie is going to be the greatest movie since Citizen Kane, blah blah blah. Yeah, the information is useful, but the commentary is ludicrous. The movie is a year away, and people are already whining about it on that site. WAY too nerdy for me. And Harry Knowles can't write worth a shit...
From: Ross Entered on: July 21, 2003 6:13 PM
So don't read the commentary. I don't. But they get the scoops on the latest pics and that's why I go there.
From: Swerb Entered on: July 21, 2003 10:25 PM
I'm not attacking anyone for using the site; just lookin' for a reason to rant... the site used to be fairly decent a few years ago, but now it's quite irritating.
From: The Bone Entered on: July 22, 2003 1:37 AM
Ain't It Cool News may suck in general but the sweetest movie review of all time was written by some dude there. Here's the link. Swerb, se if you can get it reprinted in the GR Press.  

From: Ross Entered on: April 9, 2004 8:54 AM
Here's another couple pics of the Batman guy. He's a body builder, apparently. I love the mask.


From: BigFatty Entered on: July 22, 2003 2:10 PM
Batman is certainly one tuff dude. But even with all his sweetness, if I were him, I'd be investing in a Bat-cup (tm). Not just to protect the Bat-boys, but for aesthetics.
From: Ross Entered on: July 22, 2003 2:46 PM
Agreed. I thought the same thing.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 22, 2003 4:11 PM
Did you boys find yourselves checking out the "bat pole"? I won't say it... (but it ryhmes with "grank cawker").  
HA HA HA HAAA *ulp!* "ACK!"
From: John Entered on: July 22, 2003 10:52 PM
The mask is sweet but the tight material used in the suit translates into comic book drawings better than real life. I have to admit though, this costume is very reminiscent of The Dark Knight Returns which is pretty fuckin' cool. Frank Miller style all the way boys.
From: Ross Entered on: July 22, 2003 10:48 PM
I still like it better than the rubber bullshit used in the movies. This is what I've been asking for ever since I read Year One. I do think he needs the Bat Nad Protector device, but other than that, I think it's perfect.
From: John Entered on: July 22, 2003 10:58 PM
I agree, it is better than the rubber suit in the movies. Still, I think it looks cooler in comic books than it does in real life. That's not to say that this isn't the best BatMan costume I've ever seen.
From: John Entered on: July 22, 2003 11:09 PM
I just checked out the pics of Doc Ock, fuckin' sweet as hell man. I love the look and like Zilla I'm hopefull for some sweet action like the cartoon has.
From: Ross Entered on: July 26, 2003 10:46 PM
Sweet news! That Batman movie is available for download online. It's 160MB so only high speed users need attempt it at this time:
I'm downloading it now. I'll write back with my editorial after viewing it, sometime tomorrow.
From: John Entered on: July 27, 2003 1:49 PM
Zilla was downloading it last night. I can't wait to see it. Hopefully it does the caped crusader justice.
From: Ross Entered on: July 27, 2003 3:40 PM
I have a feeling you guys will think it's way over the top, and it kind of is, but at the same time, It's a total comic-book-geek-wet-dream type flick.  
That said, I still thought it was sweet. The outfit was fucking perfect. The mask is by far the sweetest I've ever seen for Batman. He even has white contact lenses to make him look like the comic version! He looks like an Alex Ross painting come to life. The fighting was passable but not as good as it could have been. Still, the guy had so much more mobility than the Batmen of the movies.  
I highly recommend watching the making-of featurette that is also available through the above link. It has a lot of good insight into the filmmaking process - it's amazing how much work an 8 minute movie can be.
From: Ross Entered on: July 31, 2003 9:00 AM
So what's the story? Surely at least JACK has seen this film by now? I heard Howard Stern raving about it this morning.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 31, 2003 9:27 AM
I played it for the boys a couple days ago. Everyone was surprised by the Aliens and Predators appearance. Comments after the viewing? None. In fact, I was a little surprised that John didn't have a thing to say. I took his silence to mean he wasn't impressed. If I'm wrong Roche-Man, please correct me.  
My comments? For such a small budget little film it was pretty sweet. I like the more gritty, hands-on approach, no rubber-bat-suit version of Batman. If they did a big budget version with this approach it would kick ass. A bigger budget would afford them sweeter fight choreagraphy and stuff. Leave the Alien and Predator out -- I'd love to see Batman just wailing on common thugs and mobsters.  
To have a "making of" that's longer than the featurette and all the dick sucking going on is a bit much. It was interesting to watch though. I take it this whole project was just a way for all those involved to promote themselves? What's the legality of all this? What's DC Comics and Fox think of these guys using their characters (even if not for profit)?
From: Ross Entered on: July 31, 2003 9:56 AM
I don't think that you can get in trouble if you're not making a profit. This was basically made to show to the Warner exec's - "hey, I *get* Batman. Let me make a feature." After seeing this film, I say give him a shot. I agree that Predator and the Aliens are a bit over the top (although he got the idea from existing comics, it's not as nutty as it sounds) you have to be impressed by the level of quality in the costumes for a movie that only cost $30k to make. I, too, though would like to see Batman fighting more realistic bad guys.  
I'm also willing to bet that Roche wasn't impressed, and it saddens me because 10 years ago he would have been flipping out over this. Back when he used to get excited over all things comic book. I dont expect the Wills and Tonys to "get it" - this is pure comic book geek fantasy. But I fear that Roche's journey toward Middle American Dullard is now complete. If I'm wrong Roche, please correct me. :)
From: Ross Entered on: March 30, 2004 12:53 PM
There is a new bootleg preview of Spider-Man 2 that has some sweet (although it crappy quality) footage of Doc Ock and him fighting on an El train. It's in quicktime format, here's the torrent:

From: Ross Entered on: April 9, 2004 8:53 AM
Okay, the official trailer for Spider-Man 2 is out, and I have only watched the first minute of it and I'm already loving it. He's swinging like a mofo! Download this now!

From: The Bone Entered on: April 9, 2004 6:09 PM
Happy Good Friday you motherfuckers!
From: Ross Entered on: April 26, 2004 9:16 AM
They've got a new international trailer for Spider-Man 2 which is similar to the old one but has some new footage (including Spidey on the El that is clearly in Chicago :)

From: Swerb Entered on: May 20, 2004 12:07 PM
So, John Douglas knows a guy who has seen an early cut of Spider-Man 2, and said it was "great." The guy works in LA making movie trailers, I guess. So I asked Douglas if the guy's opinion is credible and he said, "Oh, yeah." So early scuttlebutt seems to be good. All I know is, I finally saw the trailer on a big screen (went to see Shrek 2 again - it's crammed with so many jokes, I caught several I didn't get the first time), and I got goosebumps. Damn, Spidey looks sweet! I can't wait.
From: Ross Entered on: May 20, 2004 2:20 PM
Damn Swerb, you're usually not so excitable. Be careful or you'll whip Roche and I into a frenzy.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: May 20, 2004 2:41 PM
(rolling around on the floor like Homer, foaming at the mouth):  
From: Ross Entered on: May 20, 2004 2:53 PM
(and Jack, yes, let's not forget Jack)
From: BigFatty Entered on: May 21, 2004 7:40 AM
No, Jack just does that when he doesn't wait long enough and bites into a TOO Hot Pocket.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: May 21, 2004 7:48 AM
The new trailer is on-line for CATWOMAN!  
I will say that the action parts (from the short snippets they show) look kinda neat. Then again, that might just be the Halle Berry in leather talking.
From: Ross Entered on: May 21, 2004 8:08 AM
I disagree - the scenes I saw looked sped up and quite obviously fake. Like old-school 80's special effects. Plus, what the fuck is up with giving Catwoman powers?  
You couldn't DRAG me to this movie. I would sooner lick my own bunghole after taking Swerb's fiber cleansing pills than pay money for this trash.  
Mark my words, this will go down as an embarssment among embarassments in the world of comic-book-movie adaptations.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: May 21, 2004 9:00 AM
Aww come on, Ross! Next you're gonna tell me you never saw BARBWIRE...
From: Ross Entered on: May 21, 2004 9:06 AM
I watched it long enough to see that it wasn't going to have enough nudity to keep me interested, so I probably watched about 15 or 20 minutes of it. Couldn't tell you what I saw, though, besides CRAP.
From: The Bone Entered on: May 21, 2004 10:09 AM
Maybe be you should just go see a super sweet movie like MAN ON FIRE instead!
From: Ross Entered on: May 21, 2004 10:12 AM
I think you're right, it's high on the list. It's between that and Shrek 2, which both Swerb and another guy at work here heartily endorse.
From: The Bone Entered on: May 23, 2004 4:25 PM
I just saw Shrek 2 yesterday. Some creative little fuckers put that one together. Every 2 seconds there was some sort of reference to some other story or some kind of joke. It was very enjoyable. I liked it better than the first Shrek
From: Swerb Entered on: May 24, 2004 9:27 PM
Yeah, Bone: I loved Shrek 2. I caught more jokes and references the second time around, too. Did you see it, Bert?
From: Swerb Entered on: May 24, 2004 9:29 PM
By the way, I saw an early screening of the new Harry Potter movie today, and it's just as mediocre as the other two, even without that hack Christopher Columbus directing it. Bummer.
From: Ross Entered on: May 24, 2004 9:37 PM
I've been wanting to see it really badly, unfortunately this weekend was a clusterfark and next weekend promises to be more of the same. And the week is looking pretty busy for both Heather and I, so I don't know when we'll get the chance. Damn, I sound like I'm already married with chitlins...
From: Ross Entered on: May 25, 2004 6:22 PM
By the way Swerb, let me know if you ever get a chance to see Faranheit 9/11 - It's interesting to think that politics can so inspire the winning of the Palm d'Or at Cannes. Moore is such a zealot that I can barely stand to watch his movies - he's ALMOST as dishonest as GWB in the first place. But I want to see this one even if I can't hope to be well-informed by it.
From: The Bone Entered on: May 25, 2004 8:16 PM
Moore is a great propagandist. He throws shit out like its gospel. You really need to have a critical eye when you watch his shit. I like him anyways just because he hates Bush. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
From: Swerb Entered on: May 25, 2004 11:01 PM
I'm pretty conflicted about Michael Moore... I think he's a great filmmaker, and I think he might argue that what he makes aren't necessarily documentaries - yet he still passes them off as such. Agree with his politics or not (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't), his movies are entertaining and persuasive, although there's something about him that's kind of ... phony. There's something about a guy who has capitalized greatly on his films, yet seems to go out of his way to look like a complete shlub, almost as if he's trying to make himself look like a "normal" blue collar guy. (Also, if he attempted to eat at McDonalds for every meal for a month, he might last about three days before having a coronary.) Still, I own Bowling for Columbine and Roger and Me, and I'm not ashamed to say so, and I'm really looking forward to Farenheit 9/11, strictly on the basis of being a fan of his style of humor and his techniques, not necessarily his politics.  
Still, I have to agree with Bone... 51% of me likes him because, at the heart of his bullshit, he's against Bush and evil corporations. Also, Bone, I find it amusing that someone who works for the U.S. military thinks Bush is worthless. I'm sure you're not alone...  
By the way, I heard a quote from Bush on NPR today, and he described the work of one of his military commanders as "exemplerary." Jesus fuckin' christ....
From: The Bone Entered on: May 26, 2004 1:28 AM
Actually Swerb, I'm one of the very few military dudes who doesn't support Bush. Military types are usually conservatives who despise liberals.  
The thing about Republican vs Democrats that cracks me up is how are they so different? The diffence in policy concerning major issues like economics and foreign relations are minimal between parties that they go use abortion and gun control as major dividing factors. I really don't give a shit about these two issues when compared to everything else.  
I don't really want to associate myself with Republicans or Democrats since I have my own opinions on different issues. I guess I am liberal leaning on many issues but there are good guys in bothe parties and ding dongs as well. Bushh is the biggest ding dong as so he has to go. Get Ashcroft out as well since I hate him as much or more than Bush.
From: Ross Entered on: May 26, 2004 8:20 AM
How you can trust a guy to have well-reasoned views on things when he clearly doesn't grasp the concept of basic nutrition and a healthy lifestyle? Are those conspiracy theories too? Okay, maybe that's a low blow but I think the idea has at least a little merit.  
My problem is that people all-too-often will watch movies like his and not question his bias - we live in a culture that doesn't acknowledge bias in any form of reporting, even including docufictions like Moore makes. Plus he has used some pretty underhanded tactics to make his dubious points in the past - interviewing Dick Clark about some worker in a restaraunt that he undoutedly didn't even know of, intercutting Charleton Heston's speech with Columbine parents to make it look like the two were happening simultaneously when they were months apart - these are just a couple of examples that make me cringe in disgust.  
I'm with you Bone, and I almost made the same comment about military people against Bush - doesn't seem to happen very often. But it's just a culture thing that at least you're not buying into.  
Actually I was just in Heather's hometown over the weekend and there's lots of blue collar types around there, and I was digusted to see behind the bar of one place a sign that had the flag on it and read "It's 'one nation under God' or get the hell out of my country!" and I just thought that these are people whose votes count the same as mine. They don't have any inkling what this country is about, or what the separation of church and state is, or why it's a good idea. If they do any reading about it, they'll probably read some propoganda that the founding fathers didn't mean for there to be a separation of church and state (the actual words aren't in the Constitution) - but that's pure bullshit - if you actually read documentation it is Thomas Jefferson who repeatedly used that phrase and elaborated on his meaning. Sorry for the tangent, I am just starting to realize that for all our talk of democracy in the Middle East, the system is barely functional in our own country, let alone for one with people who are brainwashed even worse, if that's even possible.
From: John Entered on: May 26, 2004 9:21 AM
Too true, Bert. More than ever the religious zealots are scaring me because they seem to place religion above freedom. This is suppose to be a "free" country but you wouldn't know it when you come across absurd signs that read like the one you saw, Bert. Thomas Jefferson was sweet, where have these guys gone? There're few if any like him in office now. We need guys like this to lead our country but they're in short supply in the political arena. In fact, someone like Jefferson probably couldn't get elected in todays times and that is really scary.
From: The Bone Entered on: May 26, 2004 9:40 AM
When I was in Jacksonville a couple weeks ago I was invited to a firends house for dinner. My friends wife is a big Bush supporter and let it be known right off the bat. I didn't want to ruin a pleasant evening so I kept my opionions to myself. Of course I was finally asked and I told her I hated Bush. When asked why, I told her a laundry list of reasons with number one being his religious zeal. She got pissed and informed me that this nation was founded as a Christian nation under God and thats what the USA is all about. I think my friend knew there was about to be big trouble and quickly told his bitch to be cool - I said bitch be cool!  
People like this drive me fucking crazy. That guy in the article is right. Religion is a disease. So is stupidity. Bush has them both.  

From: Ross Entered on: May 26, 2004 9:46 AM
There is a wealth of good information on this site, which I have referenced numerous times. This page is a direct and powerful rebuttal to the bitch who needed to chill:

From: Ross Entered on: May 26, 2004 10:17 AM
As for "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" goes, Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein are Bush's enemies too. Moore is still a buffoon in my opinion and I don't need friends like him, he only dilutes my cause, which is clear and rational decision-making.  
He manages to make me laugh if I don't think too hard about his means of setting up his gags, and realize how unfair they really are - which really matters when you're watching something that's nominally labelled as a "documentary." No, Moore is a pure propogandist, which at the end of the day, if he's essentially on my side and he gets the job done (helping vote Bush out), I can't complain too much. But it could just as easily go the other way, and he could support something or someone I disagree with, again for the wrong reasons, and his net worth goes into the negative.  
Also, from what I hear, a lot of his film has to do with the ties between Bush and bin Laden's family. This page sheds some rational light on the truth:
From: Creeko Entered on: May 26, 2004 11:50 AM
I might get to see a movie before you guys for once.  
Spain collectively hates Bush and surely won't have any problem distributing this "docufilm".  
I'm sick of him because eveyone here thinks I'm a Bush supporter just because I'm American. Every time He goes and sticks his foot up his ass, they all ask me what the fuck my president is up to.  
I say fuck if I Know I didn't vote for him. Hell, I don't even pay taxes.
From: The Bone Entered on: May 26, 2004 12:16 PM
How does that work not paying taxes? Do you have to if your are living in Mexico? I'm guessing you at least have to file.
From: Swerb Entered on: May 26, 2004 1:45 PM
Here's an analogy for you: Religion (especially Christianity, because we're surrounded by it) is like the coolwebsearch searchx spyware virus - it's so ingrained that it's really difficult to eradicate. I also want to beat the fuck out of the guy who invented it.  
You know, Janeane Garofalo was on the Daily Show recently, and she said (I'm paraphrasing) that anyone who votes for Bush is just too stubborn to admit he's an awful president. She also said his born-again Christianity influences his decision making on the environment: He believes in rapture and the apocalypse, so who cares if we pollute and chop down trees? Kind of an extreme statement, but you have to wonder if it's at the root of Bush's policy...  
And one more word on Michael Moore: My biggest problem with him is his partisan bullshit. Rational thinkers aren't "liberal" or "conservative," and his views border on extremism. His arguments essentially preach to the choir and point fingers, thus pissing off the opposition, making rational discussion nearly impossible.
From: Ross Entered on: May 26, 2004 2:42 PM
Well said, Swerb. One minor niggling point, though (as is my wont): although I agree with the spirit of what Garofalo said, tree-chopping is a bad example, at least for our own country. The vast majority of our paper goods comes from tree farms where the trees are grown for this specific purpose, and then re-planted after being cut down. The actual recycling of paper for the msot part is a net loss of energy, believe it or not. This is not to say that cutting down the rain forests is not an evil practice, but at least this country isn't using those trees for paper.  
And speaking of religion being a virus, that is exactly what Richard Dawkins called it - he's the one who invented the term "meme," and he views religion as the most pervasive meme of all.

From: Ross Entered on: May 26, 2004 4:26 PM
I must post this article even though it's only very tangentially related to our discussion. It's just a sweet article:
And yes, in case you're wondering, I am bored at work today and I'm doing way too much web surfing.
From: Creeko Entered on: May 27, 2004 2:15 AM
I don't pay American taxes.  
The IRS has no clue about me working in Spain (at least I don't think so) and I have a Spanish bank account.  
I reckon I should be paying something just in case I need to be air lifted by helicopter off the roof of the American embassy in Spain after Bush attacks Zapatero for removing Spanish troops from Iraq.  

From: Ross Entered on: May 27, 2004 8:44 AM
Yeah, it seems to me that if you can actually vote (even though you don't), you should at least FILE in the US.
From: BigFatty Entered on: May 27, 2004 9:24 AM
Ok Ross, after your comments on the sources of US paper goods, you have offically ventured into Cliff Clavin territory. Wait a minute, put all of us in a bar and we would have Cheers - JA.  
Tony - Sam  
Ross - Cliff  
John - Norm  
Swerb - Fraiser  
Fatty - Woody (The dumbass)  
Creeko - Coach  
Jack - Well Jack, you can be Vera  

From: John Entered on: May 27, 2004 10:43 AM
I would also like to say well said, Swerb. A virus is an apt description of what religion is and like the cold virus, there is no known cure.  
Norm, Fatty? Hey, I'm husky, not obease. I guess I like beer though and food, lots of food. Yeah, I guess I'm the Norm of this site. Bert is Cliff for sure, he can wield facts like Achilles wielded a sword. I love that Zilla is Vera because it's so true. Fatty, isn't Woody (the dumbass) a bit harsh? I mean you are a fornicator of processes but does this make you a dumbass?
From: BigFatty Entered on: May 27, 2004 10:59 AM
Ok the Lovable Dumbass. I didn't want everyone to think I picked Woody because he was cool or something.  

From: Ross Entered on: May 27, 2004 11:59 AM
Fatty - there was an episode of Penn and Teller: Bullshit on recycling that I saw recently (which I've recently told Roche about sho he can back me up) which talks about paper recycling. Give it a year or so, I'll forget all the salient details. I'm not sure I like the Cliff comparison as I hope I've got my shit (and facts) together a bit better than he did.  
As for religion, the cure is Critical Thinking, my friends. Raising children in a dogma-free household, and plenty of education. For those already infected, the mortality rates are too high. Triage dictates that they're too far gone to help.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: May 27, 2004 4:38 PM
Vera? I gotta be freakin' Vera? Isn't that the mean, dwarf lady married to Danny Devito? I realize I'm the new kid around here, but GEESH!
From: The Bone Entered on: May 27, 2004 6:35 PM
What's wrong with being married to Danny Devito? I bet it would be cool!
From: Ross Entered on: May 27, 2004 6:35 PM
No, that's Carla. You can't be her only because you're too tall. Vera was Norm's unseen wife.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: May 27, 2004 8:01 PM
Norm's unseen wife? Shit. That's worse than the dwarf!
From: The Bone Entered on: May 27, 2004 10:43 PM
Man, that ain't right!
From: BigFatty Entered on: May 28, 2004 3:45 AM
Its better than Diane! She has obvious connections to Sam which you would not like, plus the marriage to Frazier. Tell you what, If we do a Taxi - JA, you can be Danny Devito or Jim. Jim is more your style though ;) I didn't think Carla was your style, but on further reflection, she might be perfect - Horny, Loose, Blue-Collar, and Witty. Well at least the Horny part is right.
From: Ross Entered on: May 28, 2004 8:18 AM
Actually you could be Paul - one of Norm's fat friends. Remember the time he was the mack daddy because a "Chubby Chaser" was after him? Good times.

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